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To the Bar! => Hangar 1 => Topic started by: =CfC= Ax on August 09, 2013, 12:06:11 AM

Title: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 09, 2013, 12:06:11 AM
Evening chaps, Fitz led me to believe this was the place for a quaff of the good stuff? Rotten service and lousy ale at the last club, ol' Johnnie was lest best pleased I can tell you!

The long and the short, well, where do I start? As an avid fan of DCSW and particularly the Flaming Cliffs franchise, I have decided to reach out and expand my horizons. Heinous I know, but I have never entertained the idea of being behind the stick of an old WWII aircraft, not until very recently that is. Maybe 10 plus years too late, but having fired up IL-2 1946, tweaked the GFX a little and flown a few on / offline missions with extremely little or no comprehension of the virtual time machine I had just embroiled myself in.. all I can say it's, rather spiffing, splendid, glorious, I want more!

Now herein lies the problem. I'm a very active member of a DCSW / FC squad and thoroughly enjoy the experience and benefits that brings. Most of all, I love the camaraderie and passion that is highly evident amongst the like minded folk within this niche hobby of ours. So, it's with a heavy heart that I currently find myself unable to commit to a CfC application, although I would certainly like to be considered, if possible, for the occasional flight with you chaps as when the opportunity arises?

As mentioned, I have very little experience (a few hours) within this sim but would love to learn more with an alley of like minded merrymakers!


~S~

Ax
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Bounder on August 09, 2013, 09:42:29 AM
Welcome Axion,

We are a very easy going bunch here at CfC....in general we just suit ourselves with all having RL events that govern our ability to fly online so there is absolutely no requirement to fly more than whatever you wish......fill your boots.......join us whenever suits.

You will need to get your installation to UP3 RC4 which is what we fly online. The UltraPack website is currently down for maintenance, but there is info. here:-

http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/index.php?topic=9984.0 (http://www.warbirdsofprey.org/index.php?topic=9984.0)

More info here:-

http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,186.0.html?PHPSESSID=3fa2c94dda6be7e330e0c6446301cda7 (http://www.sas1946.com/main/index.php/board,186.0.html?PHPSESSID=3fa2c94dda6be7e330e0c6446301cda7)

If you have problems with any of this, jut post here and we will endeavour to help.

We currently have a server operational three nights a week......Sunday/Tuesday/Thursday. Due to our fearless leader having tech. problems with his machine, the server details are published by 6pm each evening (I have a dynamic IP address). Server is usually available from 1930 BST

Teamspeak login is also published in the "Comms" thread....so all you have to do is get your install to UP3RC4 and join in.....we hope to see you whenever you want to come along and we will help in whatever way we can.

Bounder ;D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Fitz on August 09, 2013, 10:40:29 AM
Hi Bounder

I can't seem to change his forum permissions from my phone so he doesn't have access to the comms or server details boards.

Can someone please PM Axion with the TS details and then at least he can check the server ip when he gets on.

Ta

Fitz
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 09, 2013, 06:46:40 PM
Done
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 09, 2013, 07:28:33 PM
Thank you gentlemen, I now have the necessary details. As explained to the right honourable Father Ted, I will be in touch shortly once my install is up to the correct standard.

Regards and good hunting.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 11, 2013, 12:23:16 PM
Hope you will be able to join us in a prang old chap. Don't let the buffoonery and banter here fool you; they are a handy bunch of chaps to scrap with, split arse and tasty in the virtual skies what?
Conky comes up with some excellent campaigns and Bounder some superb missions also which tend to be flown on Thursday and Sunday evenings if numbers due to summer suffice. Tuesday is a general scrap with blood and hair (except mine, having none) all over the place with no quarter asked or given. Dive in, you won't regret it! :)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: CFC_Conky on August 11, 2013, 06:49:25 PM
Huzzah! Fresh meat! Fresh meat!

....Errrrrr, ummmmm, rather, welcome aboard Axion!

Pip, pip,
Conky
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 12, 2013, 12:05:05 AM
Absolutely gents, as soon as the UP site peers out  from hibernation, I will be there.

As for being the 'dish of the day', that unfortunately, is a foregone conclusion. My derrière is often handed to me on a platter during these DF server missions, it's just not cricket!

So, in the meantime whilst I await the baptism of fire, what aircraft should I be cutting my teeth into? The choice and variations seems quite bewildering to a novice and I'm not sure where to start.


A few more questions if you don't mind?


- Currently using a Warthog HOTAS but have a MS Sidewinder FFB gathering dust in the loft, is it worth recommissioning the old boy? Does IL-2 take advantage of such HW?


- Multiple IL-2 installs. It seems there are three main variations of IL-2?


1) The most recent unmodded release.

2) 4.10.1 + UP - The one you guys run.

3) Some version inc HSFX.

Is it possible to have all three installs to cater for all occasions?
 


Thank you Gentlemen,

Ax





Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 12, 2013, 09:40:26 AM
UP site is running again, though location of downloads of v3.0 obscure. Try this link:
http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=4 (http://ultrapack.il2war.com/index.php?action=articles;sa=view;article=4)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 12, 2013, 10:27:21 AM
Quote from: Axion on August 12, 2013, 12:05:05 AM


So, in the meantime whilst I await the baptism of fire, what aircraft should I be cutting my teeth into? The choice and variations seems quite bewildering to a novice and I'm not sure where to start.

That's quite a tricky one:  yesterday we were mucking about in 1930s biplanes, but two weeks ago we had a try at Sabres v Migs in Korea.  However, I suppose our "staple" human v human DF maps are mid-war Europe/N Africa.  This generally means that the "reds" have P40Ms and Spit Vs, whereas the "blues" have F model 109s, early 190s and sundry Italian kites.  There are also usually twins available to have a go at (as it were).

If you're going to practise, bear in mind that we fly "full switch" - so get used to engine management and not having icons on.

I have two separate installs (4,12 and UP3.0) accessed through different shortcuts.  Maybe not very elegant, but it works.

The Warthog should be more than adequate.  As far as I know none of us uses a FFB stick, but I believe that IL2 supports the feature.  Look after that Sidewinder though - they're highly valued in the RoF community.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 12, 2013, 02:14:05 PM
Concur with his Holy Tedness, use the Warthog, you can never have enough buttons, sliders rotary thingummies.
Sell the Sidewinder on Ebay to fund TrackIR if you haven't got it :)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: CFC_Conky on August 12, 2013, 09:00:52 PM
Real men use a hat switch to look around Axion, not some teletubby-widget on one's head.

Real men also get shot down and/or run into the ground a lot... ;D

Pip, pip,
Conky
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Bounder on August 12, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
Dear oh dear.....confusion!

No....just a very warm welcome Axion......if you give us some notice (a day will do) we will put up a server with the a/c set you are most familiar with and take it from there.....so as I said...fill your boots!

I have a thing called a "sadstick" that functions in the usual way....pull to make the houses get smaller...push to make them bigger...everything else requires changing my glasses to see the keys and the inevitable stall or spin follows.....so you see you can come along with any electrical gizmo that you have and still have fun at CfC.

Look forward to hearing which machines you would like to try.

Bounder ;D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 12, 2013, 10:39:20 PM
Thank you BalDaddy, the link worked just fine.  8)

You could say I'm in bit of a pickle at the moment. The situation is thus - I'm moving house next week and the advance party have already made off with some supplies, including my gaming rig.

Over the last few days I've attempted to play IL-2 on a pretty old machine, albeit running Win 7 x64. My experience has been mixed to say the least, with the main problem being mouse cursor fixation within the non respondent GUI. A few minutes of Alt - Tabbing normally sorts this issue but not all the time.

The other problem I have encountered is widescreen (1920x1200) support within UP3 RC4, it really does not play ball. Normally a quick conf.ini edit sorts this, but for some reason UP3 is ignoring those edited settings? If I add widescreen support (included with UP3) via the JSGME then the game version is altered and is no longer compatible with online servers running UP3 RC4.

So gents, I may delay my online activities for a week, that is until I'm firmly and comfortably strapped within my familiar pit back at HQ.

Hope you understand.

Apologies for the long winded post and greater apologies for not posting up in the 'Tech Support' section.


Oh.. Conky, have one of those fandangled head widget things and I wouldn't fly without it. ;D


Regards,

Ax
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: CFC_Conky on August 13, 2013, 02:34:47 AM
Hi Axion,

Does your conf.ini file remember your custom video settings? I sometimes have to set the file to 'read only' for things to stick.

Don't worry too much about your gear, just come as you are, but watch out for Matron! :o

Pip, pip,
Conky
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Bounder on August 13, 2013, 10:02:47 AM
Axion....

True widescreen support is not available in UP 3 and you should not select it in the JSGME...just $UP$_Enable_UP3.0

You get the resolution you want by opening the conf.ini file and editing....for you it should read:-

[window]
width=1920
height=1200
ColourBits=32
DepthBits=24
StencilBits=8
ChangeScreenRes=1
FullScreen=1
DrawIfNotFocused=0
EnableResize=0
EnableClose=1
SaveAspect=0
Use3Renders=0


The splash screen will always open in 4:3 but when you fly you will be in the correct resolution.

Hope this works for you.

Bounder ;D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 13, 2013, 11:22:12 AM
Hurrah! Conky, Bounder, that worked wonderfully, thank you!  ;D

I've heard many stories of grown men weeping into their char at the prospect of a medical 'examination' by Matron!  Shall certainly do my best to avoid the wards at all costs. :o

If I see any of you chaps on TS then I will certainly pootle along and introduce myself.


Regards,

Ax



Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: bb on August 13, 2013, 08:26:36 PM
Welcome from the FAC section Axion!    .....don't feel guilty about not joining; they take strays... and abuse them.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 13, 2013, 11:28:43 PM
Thank you bb, I do indeed get that impression but... and it's a big but, providing it doesn't involve getting naked, then that's fine and dandy with me.

BTW, does UP3 + 4.10.1 fully support TIR 6DOF? Only able to utilise 3 out of 6 modes, ie roll, pitch and yaw. Believe I may have read somewhere that this was not fully implemented until the release of 4.11.1?



Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 14, 2013, 10:44:43 AM
It doesn't if one is in gunsight view, (necessary on German kites to centre the reticule) just zoom available in my experience
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 14, 2013, 11:30:01 AM
Quote from: Axion on August 13, 2013, 11:28:43 PM
BTW, does UP3 + 4.10.1 fully support TIR 6DOF? Only able to utilise 3 out of 6 modes, ie roll, pitch and yaw. Believe I may have read somewhere that this was not fully implemented until the release of 4.11.1?

6DoF does work in UP 3.0 - I was using it the other night to peer round the stoopid tube sight on the I15.  You have to tick the box on the SAS selector applet that comes up before you start the main prog.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 14, 2013, 08:00:33 PM
Have the correct box checked within the SAS selector. Must be an install or TIR issue, as the same occurs in 4.12.1m.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 14, 2013, 11:34:42 PM
Hmmm.. I don't know then, I'm afraid.  Mind you, I use Freetrack, rather than TIR, so maybe my comments weren't that useful :-[.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 15, 2013, 08:53:20 AM
Hey, no problem Ted.  ;)

Just trying to fathom the basics on this old rig before settling back with the good stuff next week.

Edit: Have a way forward. Turns out the reason it failed to work was due to a faulty conf.ini which I copied across to 4.12.1m. Whoops. ::)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 15, 2013, 02:08:58 PM
There's one further thing which may be worth looking at, Axion.  We may be running the "Channel" map when you join us.  If so you'll need to alter your conf.ini as indicated in this thread:http://chuffysflyingcircus.net/cfcforum/index.php?topic=167.0 (http://chuffysflyingcircus.net/cfcforum/index.php?topic=167.0).

As you'll see, this was a stumbling block on my debut as a Chuffolite.  It's caught out a few others since as well, so I thought I'd flag it up now.  The change to ini file doesn't affect anything else, as far as I'm aware.

Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 15, 2013, 04:37:52 PM
Thank you again Ted, much appreciated!
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 15, 2013, 10:03:59 PM
It was jolly nice to finally catch up with Ted, Bounder and BD1 on TS. Thank you for the warm welcome chaps, much appreciated.

Hopefully, next time, I'll be up and running and be in a position to partake in the aerial frivolities.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Binks on August 17, 2013, 09:28:43 AM
Marvellous Axion. I've already started a tab for you at the bar, and (ahem) Mme Fifi's fine establishment. As a welcome gesture, I tested both, and I can report that the bills are already suitably large.  ;)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Bounder on August 17, 2013, 09:38:32 AM
Binks old chap....delighted to hear that the aristocracy is managing its finances after the last years in the wilderness.

I would hope that you finally purchase a tailor made pair of new overalls to replace the ones covered in port and Stilton and various fluids....and as Palmtree mentioned...please... please a new pair of socks!

Bounder ;D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 17, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
That's rather sporting of you Binks! Better settle up, don't want the chaps getting too squiffy, especially after 'that' incident with Ted and the Air Marshal's daughter... :o
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Binks on August 18, 2013, 04:20:18 PM
You will be delighted to know Bounder, that I have decided to donate one of the aforementioned socks to Axion, as suitable protection for his gentlemens area.
Please don't be put off by the fragrance Axion, I can assure you that neither I, nor Palmtree have ever used it for anything other than an impromptu sandwich holder, though I do believe Matron once cleaned a blocked exhaust with it. :o
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 22, 2013, 09:05:43 AM
Binks, your generosity is truly outstanding, it really is. Unfortunately, I may have to decline your offer. The darlings from the WAAF have already furnished me with a rather splendid hockey sock.  ;D

Sandwich holder, now there's a thing. :D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 22, 2013, 06:39:08 PM
Hockey sock eh? Boasting again......:)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Binks on August 24, 2013, 12:19:10 PM
Hmm, last time I met up with the "darlings of the WAAF", several photographs of squalling infants were produced, with uncanny resemblance to young Palmtree, right down to the tattoo!
Beware the open weave of the socks Axion!
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 26, 2013, 10:13:37 PM
Sir, It's not a problem, have two! Socks that is.

Now to business. House move complete, PC gear setup and IL-2 + UP3 installed. Last itinerary item is the HOTAS. No, not the WAAF but my joystick, it needs a profile. Once complete, I'll be good to go.

 

Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 26, 2013, 10:22:55 PM
Tuesday it is then! (No pressure)
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 26, 2013, 11:19:14 PM
I'll certainly try my best to be there!
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 27, 2013, 09:05:26 AM
Hope you can make it old boy. Not too many of us about at the moment due to PC woes and the idle rich taking yet more holidays :) Probably a good time to ease yourself in so to speak.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: CFC_Conky on August 27, 2013, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: BalDaddy on August 27, 2013, 09:05:26 AM
Hope you can make it old boy. Not too many of us about at the moment due to PC woes and the idle rich taking yet more holidays :) Probably a good time to ease yourself in so to speak.

Obviously time to start beating the peasants again!  ;D
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 27, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
Cheers gentlemen for the great flight, thoroughly enjoyed it and I look forward to next episode. Maybe a trip to Fifi's?

Thank you Ted for hosting.

Tally Ho!
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on August 28, 2013, 08:46:28 AM
Glad you enjoyed it old chap. I set a good example to you  by running into a tree on my first take-off which was actually a cleverly camouflaged friendly ship it seems and therefore suffered point deductions for my misdemeanours. Sadly I had to leave abruptly due to further elderly folks medical emergencies again.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on August 30, 2013, 12:54:10 AM
Quote from: Axion on August 27, 2013, 10:26:54 PM
Maybe a trip to Fifi's?


Start taking the vitamin E and zinc supplements now.... Actually, getting in to Fifi's (settle down at the back) is not as easy as her choice of lifestyle would have you believe. Just this evenig, two intrepid Chuffolites and an equally adventurous Clown (surely you should have a "dual nationality passport" by now BB?) attempted to visit a Fifi's franchise located atop Mount Etna. We chose low-powered training kites, but even so  our paltry flying skills were not good enough to persuade the staff at Fifi's to favour us with a complementary pass to their world-famous "all you can eat" (ahem) menu.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on August 30, 2013, 06:05:19 PM
Vitamins, pah.. YPV (Yak pi$$ Vodka) will see any man through the toughest of challenges, ask Helenkova.

Apologies for yesterday; ended up flying Su-33 Flankers over Georgia, darn those separatists! 

Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on September 02, 2013, 05:48:09 PM
If any of the Chuffolites are available tomorrow, I wouldn't mind, if the offer is open, another bout of fistycuffs?

>> To the Bar!

Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Fitz on September 02, 2013, 06:22:46 PM
We'll be there, hopefully I will also be back!
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on September 02, 2013, 09:14:07 PM
Did you hear that chaps, the boss is in town? I'd better bull those shoes, straighten that tie and iron my mustache. Don't want to be put on sandwich making duties again.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on September 03, 2013, 12:43:43 PM
Should be a few of us on tonight, mebbe Woof will have things sorted hopefully as well
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on September 03, 2013, 11:11:58 PM
grav·i·ty 
/ˈgravitÄ"/
Noun

The force that attracts a body toward the center of the earth, or toward any other physical body having mass. For most purposes Newton's...
The degree of intensity of this, measured by acceleration.

terra fir·ma  (fûrm)
n.
Solid ground; dry land.
[New Latin : Latin terra, earth + Latin firma, feminine of firmus, solid.]


in·com·pe·tent  (n-kmp-tnt)
adj.
1. Not qualified in legal terms: a defendant who was incompetent to stand trial.
2. Inadequate for or unsuited to a particular purpose or application.
3. Devoid of those qualities requisite for effective conduct or action.


Mix the above, give it a shake and... voilà!

Pretty much sums up this evenings flight. ::)

But you know what chaps.... taking a large draw on a Hamlet.... I'm certainly not giving up!

Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: John Cartwright on September 04, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
Well you were up against some split-arse top-notch 'flyers' in this lot; let not the banter and bufoonery fool you. They are all  steely eyed killers. (Not me, as you may have noticed :) )
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC=Father Ted on September 04, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: BalDaddy on September 04, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
Well you were up against some split-arse top-notch 'flyers' in this lot.../quote]

Luxury!  In my early days we still had Gizmo and Silverback as well, not to mention Homuth dropping in from time to time (he really was lethal).

In all seriousness, though, experience does count for a lot in this game.  Not just for  flying ability, but also knowing the maps, knowing the planes, and even knowing the players (lot easier to assess a furball when you know who's defensive through TS-chatter)

I actually think the learning curve is one of the great things about CFSs -   not that I haven't been known to rage-quit the Chuffy's server on one or two occasions :-[.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on September 04, 2013, 04:56:35 PM
Next flight Thursday, tomorrow?

BTW, I'm pretty use to giving and more importantly receiving in flight orders, so don't be afraid to direct me as and when the situation requires.

Thanks chaps.
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: CFC_Conky on September 04, 2013, 06:10:33 PM
Quote from: =CfC=Father Ted on September 04, 2013, 03:18:03 PM
Quote from: BalDaddy on September 04, 2013, 11:57:49 AM
Well you were up against some split-arse top-notch 'flyers' in this lot.../quote]

Luxury!  In my early days we still had Gizmo and Silverback as well, not to mention Homuth dropping in from time to time (he really was lethal).

In all seriousness, though, experience does count for a lot in this game.  Not just for  flying ability, but also knowing the maps, knowing the planes, and even knowing the players (lot easier to assess a furball when you know who's defensive through TS-chatter)

I actually think the learning curve is one of the great things about CFSs -   not that I haven't been known to rage-quit the Chuffy's server on one or two occasions :-[.

And let us forget the ever-deadly Badger, a bit before your time FT, but a very, very good, (or bad, depending on the situation :D), opponent.

Look forward to flying with you chaps again, a couple of weeks or so.

Pip, pip,
Conky
Title: Re: Surely it's not last orders?
Post by: =CfC= Ax on September 04, 2013, 07:18:06 PM
Bravo Conky, see you in a couple of weeks.