G'day All,
I'm in a bit of a "quandry" :-\ regarding the purchase of one of the models ( the subject of this post). I would greatly appreciate any comments, suggestions etc on which of the two works best in IL2 1946 for the time being ;) and comments/ suggestions for CoD and any other info and opinions with regard to both. :) I look forward to hearing from those who have experience in this area. I'm currently running a 64bit Win 7 O/S with a 5700 series ATI graphics card. I may need to purchase a better graphics card at some stage in the future ( when I'm rich!!!!!!! ;D)
Look forward to any input,
Cheers,
SadSack. :-\
PS: Thanks to "Bluey" I now have IL21946 patched up to 4.10.1
Many thanks "Blue Dog"!
Can't rate TrackIR highly enough....don't know the other thingummy.
Well worth the money. Most chaps would not be without it as an absolute necessity for multiplayer shenannigans.
I'm a complete dunce in the world of computing, so if I can get the thing to work, anyone can!
Buy it mate, you won't regret it.
Card-wise, think you is o.k. for IL2, Cod not worth addressing until it is patched up to a reasonably playable sim.
Ive got nearly the same set up sadsack...
If your as competative as I think you are... You bloody need this!
Enough said.
Quote from: BalDaddy on May 09, 2011, 11:38:14 AM
Can't rate TrackIR highly enough....don't know the other thingummy.
Well worth the money. Most chaps would not be without it as an absolute necessity for multiplayer shenannigans.
I'm a complete dunce in the world of computing, so if I can get the thing to work, anyone can!
Buy it mate, you won't regret it.
Card-wise, think you is o.k. for IL2, Cod not worth addressing until it is patched up to a reasonably playable sim.
Many Thanks for that valuable info "old chap" ;) I was sort of headed that way but wasn't sure. :-\ I haven't bought CoD as yet, just waiting for all the bugs to get ironed out. :-\
Cheers and Thanks,
sadsack. ;)
Quote from: 5./JG27Farber on May 09, 2011, 11:41:38 AM
Ive got nearly the same set up sadsack...
If your as competative as I think you are... You bloody need this!
Enough said.
Yeagh, Thanks Farber. ;) I feel I may need the added advantage when dealing with such accomplished aviators as yourself and your fellow members! ;D
Thanks or is it dunkershen? :-\
Cheers,
sadsack
SS, in my opinion, a headtracker is a must have - particularly in your case with your hand problem. I have TrackIR5 and wouldn't be without it. Takes a bit of getting used to, but after a while it becomes second nature. And then there's all the keyboard keys you can free up for other settings.
Some of the guys (Father Ted and Fitz?) use Free Track. Whereas your outlay for a new TrackIR will be about $230, all you need for Free Track (as I understand) is a web cam - which you already have.
Any comments from FT or Fitz?
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 09, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
SS, in my opinion, a headtracker is a must have - particularly in your case with your hand problem. I have TrackIR5 and wouldn't be without it. Takes a bit of getting used to, but after a while it becomes second nature. And then there's all the keyboard keys you can free up for other settings.
Some of the guys (Father Ted and Fitz?) use Free Track. Whereas your outlay for a new TrackIR will be about $230, all you need for Free Track (as I understand) is a web cam - which you already have.
Any comments from FT or Fitz?
G'day Cobber,
I have to say I'm a "tad" confused about this "track IR" stuff. ??? I thought I had it worked out ( roughly) ;D then you mentioned my webcam? :-\ Am I to conclude that the webcam has something to do with the "track IR"????? :-\
Cheers,
sadsack.
See here:
http://www.free-track.net/english/freetrack/qu-est-ce-que-c-est.php
FT and Fitz might be able to help more.
Hi Sadsack - been meaning to say hello for a while but can't keep up with your postings!
Basically the head-tracking we use relies on software which analyses the movement of infra red (hence IR) lights (LEDs) mounted on your head. It does this by means of an infra red camera. When you buy TrackIR you get the software, the LEDs in a "clip" which attaches to your headset and a modified webcam. With Freetrack you download a free piece of software and make your own LED mounting. Your webcam has to be modified (and compatible) This is easy to do - though it makes it useless as a webcam for Skype or whatever. Making the clip involves wiring up the LEDs to a power supply (batteries or USB) and mounting them in a set configuration. All the components are very cheap - even buying another webcam would make the whole thing about a tenth the cost of TrackIR.
I have to say I "cheated" and bought the "professional" clip from Natural Point - £30 here. The Freetrack software is a little less user-friendly than the TIR stuff, but once you've fiddled around with the settings I don't see how the commercial system could be any better
As the others have said it does make a big difference in game
Ted
TIR4 here, never had a problem with it, worked straight out of the box, love it and wouldn't be with it.
If you can afford it then go for it, may be able to get one cheaper on ebay.
I don't really have much to add on what Ted has said really. For the cost of a TrackIR headclip (£25) and a cheap webcam (mine is a £5 labtec job) I can't see how the official TrackIR is any better than Freetrack.
pip pip,
Fitz
Father Ted 's idea of using the TrackIR track clip pro for the leds is a good idea. About $60. Just Google for online purchase.
My view (for what it's worth): If you want something that works straight out of the box and can afford it, go for the TrackIR5. If you're scratching (and who isn't); and are a bit handy with setting things up get yourself another webcam and the trackclip pro.
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 09, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
and are a bit handy with setting things up get yourself another webcam and the trackclip pro.
...if I can manage that, anyone can ;)
Ted
Bit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot :D)
The voice recognition feature with the VR Insight thingie is interesting but probably of somewhat limited use when on comms. I can see it now: "... bail out Bounder, oh shit!"...now there are two of us floating down :D :D :D
While we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2?
Pip, pip,
Conky
QuoteBit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot
SadSack, you should be aware that Conky is an airline pilot so he doesn't look out the window very much. Also, his Company has modified all their aircraft to incorporate a hat switch on the control column. Electrical leads go from the hat switch to a USB connector on Conky's seat. Conky is wired up so that his head can be connected internally to the USB connecter via the total digestive system. A tad uncomfortable at times, but effective. Conky can then use the hatswitch to control head movements for the odd occasions when he needs to look outside. Sorry Conky, your secret is out! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWhile we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2
Nope, as long as you have a spare USB slot (on your computer, that is), you're in business.
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 09, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
See here:
http://www.free-track.net/english/freetrack/qu-est-ce-que-c-est.php
FT and Fitz might be able to help more.
G'day Bluey,
Had a "bo peep" at that vid but it had been removed by the owner! ( bummer) Fundamentally all I need to know is how the webcam interacts with the Track IR???? Oh by the way I road tested my IL2 46 last night - "works like a charm" Thanks mate. 8)
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 10, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
QuoteBit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot
SadSack, you should be aware that Conky is an airline pilot so he doesn't look out the window very much. Also, his Company has modified all their aircraft to incorporate a hat switch on the control column. Electrical leads go from the hat switch to a USB connector on Conky's seat. Conky is wired up so that his head can be connected internally to the USB connecter via the total digestive system. A tad uncomfortable at times, but effective. Conky can then use the hatswitch to control head movements for the odd occasions when he needs to look outside. Sorry Conky, your secret is out! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWhile we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2
Nope, as long as you have a spare USB slot (on your computer, that is), you're in business.
G'day Bluey,
ah ha!!!! :o The secret is out! Conky a "people mover" eh!! :-X Damn shame about that. Just when I had been "lulled" in to thinkin I am surrounded by "real pilots" LOL :D Mate, I employ the services of a "hub" for my USB's ( a marvelous addition I must say) "Well I never" I would never have suspected Conky to belong to the "Air taxi mob" ::) just goes to show eh? Conky, you kept that quiet mate! Any particular reason? ( You don't fly for Easy Jet do you cobber?) :D
Cheers,
SS.
Quote from: =CfC=Father Ted on May 09, 2011, 01:23:22 PM
Hi Sadsack - been meaning to say hello for a while but can't keep up with your postings!
Basically the head-tracking we use relies on software which analyses the movement of infra red (hence IR) lights (LEDs) mounted on your head. It does this by means of an infra red camera. When you buy TrackIR you get the software, the LEDs in a "clip" which attaches to your headset and a modified webcam. With Freetrack you download a free piece of software and make your own LED mounting. Your webcam has to be modified (and compatible) This is easy to do - though it makes it useless as a webcam for Skype or whatever. Making the clip involves wiring up the LEDs to a power supply (batteries or USB) and mounting them in a set configuration. All the components are very cheap - even buying another webcam would make the whole thing about a tenth the cost of TrackIR.
I have to say I "cheated" and bought the "professional" clip from Natural Point - £30 here. The Freetrack software is a little less user-friendly than the TIR stuff, but once you've fiddled around with the settings I don't see how the commercial system could be any better
As the others have said it does make a big difference in game
Ted
G'day Ted,
Firstly, thanks for that most "informative and timely" definition of Track IR. I now have a handle on how the damned thing works! "How's Bluey's revelation regarding Conky bein a "people mover"???? Bluey wouldn't be avin a lend of me would he????
Cheers and Thanks,
SS.
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 09, 2011, 10:35:54 PM
Father Ted 's idea of using the TrackIR track clip pro for the leds is a good idea. About $60. Just Google for online purchase.
My view (for what it's worth): If you want something that works straight out of the box and can afford it, go for the TrackIR5. If you're scratching (and who isn't); and are a bit handy with setting things up get yourself another webcam and the trackclip pro.
Mate, I'll PM you. Need some info on this stuff.
Cheers,
SS.
Quote from: sadsack324 on May 10, 2011, 03:27:04 AM
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 10, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
QuoteBit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot
SadSack, you should be aware that Conky is an airline pilot so he doesn't look out the window very much. Also, his Company has modified all their aircraft to incorporate a hat switch on the control column. Electrical leads go from the hat switch to a USB connector on Conky's seat. Conky is wired up so that his head can be connected internally to the USB connecter via the total digestive system. A tad uncomfortable at times, but effective. Conky can then use the hatswitch to control head movements for the odd occasions when he needs to look outside. Sorry Conky, your secret is out! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWhile we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2
Nope, as long as you have a spare USB slot (on your computer, that is), you're in business.
G'day Bluey,
ah ha!!!! :o The secret is out! Conky a "people mover" eh!! :-X Damn shame about that. Just when I had been "lulled" in to thinkin I am surrounded by "real pilots" LOL :D Mate, I employ the services of a "hub" for my USB's ( a marvelous addition I must say) "Well I never" I would never have suspected Conky to belong to the "Air taxi mob" ::) just goes to show eh? Conky, you kept that quiet mate! Any particular reason? ( You don't fly for Easy Jet do you cobber?) :D
Cheers,
SS.
Laugh now sadsack and Bluey, one day you'll ask for change, or a transfer, when you get on the bus....muhahahahahah! ;D
I'm heading to SYD tomorrow, be careful crossing the street... ;)
Quote from: CfC_Conky on May 10, 2011, 06:01:48 AM
Quote from: sadsack324 on May 10, 2011, 03:27:04 AM
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 10, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
QuoteBit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot
SadSack, you should be aware that Conky is an airline pilot so he doesn't look out the window very much. Also, his Company has modified all their aircraft to incorporate a hat switch on the control column. Electrical leads go from the hat switch to a USB connector on Conky's seat. Conky is wired up so that his head can be connected internally to the USB connecter via the total digestive system. A tad uncomfortable at times, but effective. Conky can then use the hatswitch to control head movements for the odd occasions when he needs to look outside. Sorry Conky, your secret is out! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWhile we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2
Nope, as long as you have a spare USB slot (on your computer, that is), you're in business.
G'day Bluey,
ah ha!!!! :o The secret is out! Conky a "people mover" eh!! :-X Damn shame about that. Just when I had been "lulled" in to thinkin I am surrounded by "real pilots" LOL :D Mate, I employ the services of a "hub" for my USB's ( a marvelous addition I must say) "Well I never" I would never have suspected Conky to belong to the "Air taxi mob" ::) just goes to show eh? Conky, you kept that quiet mate! Any particular reason? ( You don't fly for Easy Jet do you cobber?) :D
Cheers,
SS.
Laugh now sadsack and Bluey, one day you'll ask for change, or a transfer, when you get on the bus....muhahahahahah! ;D
I'm heading to SYD tomorrow, be careful crossing the street... ;)
G'day Conky,
Are you suggesting that any "birdstrikes" may not be the feathered vatiety??????LOL
Not at all sadsack, but remember, I don't look out the window...or turn, much! :D :D :D
Quote from: =CfC=Father Ted on May 09, 2011, 01:23:22 PM
Hi Sadsack - been meaning to say hello for a while but can't keep up with your postings!
Basically the head-tracking we use relies on software which analyses the movement of infra red (hence IR) lights (LEDs) mounted on your head. It does this by means of an infra red camera. When you buy TrackIR you get the software, the LEDs in a "clip" which attaches to your headset and a modified webcam. With Freetrack you download a free piece of software and make your own LED mounting. Your webcam has to be modified (and compatible) This is easy to do - though it makes it useless as a webcam for Skype or whatever. Making the clip involves wiring up the LEDs to a power supply (batteries or USB) and mounting them in a set configuration. All the components are very cheap - even buying another webcam would make the whole thing about a tenth the cost of TrackIR.
I have to say I "cheated" and bought the "professional" clip from Natural Point - £30 here. The Freetrack software is a little less user-friendly than the TIR stuff, but once you've fiddled around with the settings I don't see how the commercial system could be any better
As the others have said it does make a big difference in game
Ted
G'day Again Ted,
I just re-read your post. I've got a Logitech 200 Webcam are you aware if Logitech is compatible with Track IR?
Cheers mate and Thanks,
SS.
Quote from: CfC_Conky on May 10, 2011, 06:28:43 AM
Not at all sadsack, but remember, I don't look out the window...or turn, much! :D :D :D
G'day Conky,
Mate, you may have to extend yourself if your headed to Sydney. ;) RWY 34L is a somewhat difficult approach for "bus drivers" :D :D :D especially those with a prepensity for not avin a look out the window? ;D ;D Mate, how do you get on usin "reverse thrust" is it on the left or the right and is it "hooked up" via a USB? LOL :D :D ::) :D.
Cheers "old chap",
SS.
I just drive it towards the runway and when the rest of the crew starts to gasp, I start to flare ;)
Quote from: CfC_Conky on May 10, 2011, 07:44:02 AM
I just drive it towards the runway and when the rest of the crew starts to gasp, I start to flare ;)
Mate,
I wouldn't want to be sittin in the right hand seat! :o :o :o I reckon I'd have both hands out the window tryin to pull her up! LOL. ;) ;) ;)
Cheers,
SS. ;)
Quote from: =CfC=Fitz on May 09, 2011, 08:00:42 PM
I don't really have much to add on what Ted has said really. For the cost of a TrackIR headclip (£25) and a cheap webcam (mine is a £5 labtec job) I can't see how the official TrackIR is any better than Freetrack.
pip pip,
Fitz
G'day Fitz,
Mate I've done some preliminary research regarding Track IR 5 Pro and come up with prices ranging from min $220.00 AUD to anywhere above $335.00 AUD depending. :o :o :o Are you in a position to be able to get a price in UK pounds for the same article please? :-* :-* ( pretty please with honey and sugar etc etc) :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* Please advise if unable.
Cheers and Thanks,
SS. ;D ;D ;D ;D
had a gander for you SS cheapest deal in UKon the Track IR with the Pro clip is 270AUD inc 3 day Fedex to your address.
This place in Oz, TrackIR5 plus ProClip for $280 (inc freight)
http://www.itsdirect.com.au
Quote from: BalDaddy on May 10, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
had a gander for you SS cheapest deal in UKon the Track IR with the Pro clip is 270AUD inc 3 day Fedex to your address.
G'day Cobber,
Thanks for that, much appreciated. I had a "gander" on "Flight sim pilot shop" and they have a special on at the moment. Price for this article is $134.90 USD ( from memory) plus freight on top, approx $40 odd USD if I want it here in 3 days. Because the "aussie dollar" is reasonable at the moment that brings the price down in the US. I dunno how it is compared to the pound sterling but 134.00 is a lot better than most other prices. I'm not sure about Customs though??? Anyone know if there's a tax on stuff like this coming in from either the US or the UK???
Thanks anyway cobber I guess I'm gonna have to ring Customs here in OZ and find out "From the horses mouth" so to speak!
Cheers,
SS.
Quote from: sadsack324 on May 10, 2011, 01:21:03 PM
Quote from: BalDaddy on May 10, 2011, 12:46:58 PM
had a gander for you SS cheapest deal in UKon the Track IR with the Pro clip is 270AUD inc 3 day Fedex to your address.
G'day Cobber,
Thanks for that, much appreciated. I had a "gander" on "Flight sim pilot shop" and they have a special on at the moment. Price for this article is $134.90 USD ( from memory) plus freight on top, approx $40 odd USD if I want it here in 3 days. Because the "aussie dollar" is reasonable at the moment that brings the price down in the US. I dunno how it is compared to the pound sterling but 134.00 is a lot better than most other prices. I'm not sure about Customs though??? Anyone know if there's a tax on stuff like this coming in from either the US or the UK???
Thanks anyway cobber I guess I'm gonna have to ring Customs here in OZ and find out "From the horses mouth" so to speak!
Cheers,
SS.
Just an update on my last,
I thought it was too good to be true, Lowest price I could find was $224.95 from PC Aviator ( Australia) however that includes everything. I've sent a message to "Natural point US", they're advertising the same thing for $169.95USD. I asked if they shipped international? Their rep in AUS wanted around $335 or some ridiculous thing like that for the exact same product! Wot a rip off!!!!!
Cheers and thanks to all for your help,
SS.
Hey SS,
Looks like you'll be going down the Freetrack route after all! Here is a (working) link:
http://www.free-track.net/english/
Looks like your webcam won't work - but as I say modifying it for this will bugger it up for anything else (unless you have an IR lamp and want to look like the subject of a black ops mission whist on Skype)
Ted
G'day Ted,
Cheers mate ;) and thanks for the link. I try and stay clear of the "black ops" blokes, they don't have much of a sense of humour :D :D :D
Cheers and thanks,
SS. 8)
Can you do anything with this Sadsack?
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/i.html?_nkw=trackir+5&_sacat=0&_odkw=tir+5&_osacat=0&_trksid=p3286.c0.m270.l1313
G'day Gizmo,
Mate, I got to the stage today where I got so frustrated >:( with all the considerations regarding the purchase of this stuff ie freight charges, customs charges and waiting times that I "spat the dummy" ::) ::) ::) and ordered the stuff from an Australian mob. I've looked all around the globe and because of our location compared to both the US and the UK and the fact that the OZ government are on a "money grabbing" exercise ::) ( not that it isn't the case always ::) ) and after handing down their budget paper for 2011/12 last night plus considerations regarding warranty issues, I found myself becoming "totally" confused about the whole exercise with the corresponding amount of acid build up in my stomach ;D ;D. An executive decision had to be made so I made it. Price is always a consideration but in the "wash up" I found that buying local was the easiest way to go. One exception I made was with my new HOTAS. I ordered a new X52 from a mob in the US and even with freight included I will be saving a substantial amount. ;) ;) I had one ordered with a bloke on Ebay but he was happy to forget the deal so "at the end of the day" so to speak everything has been sorted. ;) ;) Having said that gentlemen, I wish to thank you all for your help regarding this and appreciate your input and assistance. Thank You one and all. :) :) :) :) I hope to be flying with you fine aviators sooner rather than later! ;) ;)
Cheers and Thanks,
SS. 8) 8)
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 10, 2011, 01:10:14 AM
QuoteBit of a Luddite here, the hat switch rules Conky's roost (and gets him shot down a lot
SadSack, you should be aware that Conky is an airline pilot so he doesn't look out the window very much. Also, his Company has modified all their aircraft to incorporate a hat switch on the control column. Electrical leads go from the hat switch to a USB connector on Conky's seat. Conky is wired up so that his head can be connected internally to the USB connecter via the total digestive system. A tad uncomfortable at times, but effective. Conky can then use the hatswitch to control head movements for the odd occasions when he needs to look outside. Sorry Conky, your secret is out! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteWhile we're on the subject, does TIR take up a controller slot in IL2
Nope, as long as you have a spare USB slot (on your computer, that is), you're in business.
Ahem Bluey,
I'll have you know that the next instalment in the IL2 series will be IL2: Ferry Command!
It will have advanced features such as:
- 10-14 hour missions where absolutely nothing happens.
- CEM where engine(s) will automatically operate in 'auto-rough' as soon as your aircraft is out of gliding range of shore.
- CSN (Complex Stellar Navigation), making coop missions much more interesting; "What heading should we fly? Damned if I know, which one is Beltegeuse again?"
- Ability to toggle frozen relief tube on/off
- CFM (Complex Fuel Management), selecting 100% fuel will only give you 60% and/or stronger headwinds and/or poor weather at destination and alternate.
- Cockpit heat serviceability will be random, as will primary flight instruments and radio navigation aids.
- Promotion will be spotty.
- There will be no medals awarded...ever.
There will be all-new maps:
Alaska:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/Alaska_2.jpg)
Anchorage:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/Anchorage.jpg)
Aleutians:
Adak
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/Adak.jpg)
Greenland:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/GreenlandSunrise.jpg)
Scotland:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/Scotland.jpg)
Norfolk island:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/NorfolkIsland.jpg)
Vancouver Island:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/VancouverIsland.jpg)
Some unidentified God-forsaken hovel of a place:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/SYD_4.jpg)
Decent ground detail:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/P5140272.jpg)
Improved high-altitude FM's:
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/Traffic.jpg)
Gosh that almost looks like the real thing! 'Though God Forsake Hovel Place' looks a tad too vivid, so this has completely ruined it for my so I'm not buying it, but reserve my right to whine and whinge about it on Sim HQ.
Whisper is there will be a later add-on called 'TAKORADI RUN'; where you have to assemble your Hurricane and then fly over MMFD in real time to Cairo. Real hardcore simmers will not touch the warp time button.
G'day Conky,
Very nice photos Conky - who was flyin the plane????? AND "how dare you call our beloved Sydney a Hovel ::) ::) ::) you brake a poor old colonial heart you do"! :'( :'( :'(
Cheers,
SS.
Don't tell me you're one of those Sydney-siders sadsack, oh the horror! :D
Actually, i love the place. I like WA more though, my wife's family on her dad's side are from WA, spread out from Perth to Margaret River. Her grandfather was the official photographer for the city of Perth during the 1920's. Lovely country, fantastic wine, too many bloody roos jumping out in front of your car at dusk.
Pip, pip,
Conky
Some very nice pics - and a great idea for a game - though I have to tell you we have no islands like that in Norfolk ;)
Ted
G'day Conky,
Just got out of bed mate so I'm a little "worse for wear" you might say. :P :P No, in fact I hail from a little more Southern Latitude - Torquay in Victoria :D :D :D ( on the coast ) where they hold the "Bell's beach Classic" ( Surfing competition). ;) ;) ;) A very nice little place when the tourists aren't here? 8) Christmas/New year period is "bedlam" down here ( I don't go out of the house) ::) ::) ::) then Easter when the surfing mob turn up ( once again I don't venture outside) ::) ::) ::) but the rest of the year it's OK. 8) 8) I've spent many many days and weeks in Sydney though and enjoyed every minute although I've got mixed feelings about the place? ??? ??? ??? WA is a very strange place compared to the rest of Australia. :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ I reckon those that reside permanently in WA have had a portion of their brain removed - That portion which controls logic! LOL :D :D :D :D No seriously, there are differences in the way we ( on the East coast ) talk and think compared with those living in the West. Apart from a time difference there's also a "cerebral" difference as well. ;D ;D ;D
cheers,
SS. 8)
Mrs Bluey is from WA.
Conky, you must need some rig to run that game. My fps just running the demo were so low it looked like a slide show.
Good Day to ALL,
I'm unclear as to if this is the most appropriate area of the board to post this but it would seem the most logical.
Firstly, I'm not entirely comfortable with the operations of a PC. I grew up and went to school when calculators weren't allowed let alone used and when I went to University I had many problems learning what the rest of my fellow students thought was a natural part of daily life. Consequently my skills with a PC are limited not by a lack of interest but more by a lack of understanding. I have, for some time now, wished that I had the skill with computers that many children have but I guess that's life. I also, for a long long time have wished that I could fly with or against actual humans instead of AI pilots. When a certain member of this Squadron one Blue Dog ( Bluey) advised me of Chuffey's existance I jumped at the opportunity to make an application to join. Unfortunately health issues intervened and saw my joining delayed. Even though my health isn't 100% and given the fact that I'm more or less restricted to home and my "office" I decided I would take that giant leap and join up with the intention of "Flying online".
Whilst I may come across as confident, cocky and self assured, nothing could be further from the truth. If it wasn't for the ongoing assistance, guidance and support offered by Bluey and the interest displayed by most on this forum I'm sure that I would be much further down the "gurgler" than I am. I have, with Bluey's help "patched" my IL2 1946 up to the required version I have downloaded and installed both Teamspeak 3.2 and Hyperlobby and have been provided numerous tips along the way and I cannot thank Bluey enough for his help in getting all of this "done and dusted" so to speak.
Once I receive the hardware I'm waiting on I will be ready to fly online. A minute step in many peoples minds but to me it has been a "daunting exercise" and I'm yet to successfully get online ( with the right mob) and fly. So it is with this in mind that I decided to type this post. Once established, if I make some errors when trying to join Chuffey's on one of your "outings" and I reckon I'm going to make a few could you please be aware that I make these errors because I don't understand what is expected of me. I like everyone I guess don't enjoy making mistakes but please be aware any mistakes made by me are certainly not intentional and not through arrogance. I have no wish to "stuff up" a mission or DF and will need the patience of you all and judging by what I've seen so far Chuffey's members are a most helpful bunch of people. I'm trying as hard as I possibly can NOT to make a "blue" but if I do, can those in the "firing squad" ensure their magazines are loaded with blank rounds please? ;D ;D
I think I've said what I wanted to say and I really do look forward to flying with you chaps. All I've got to do now is work out what "godforsaken" time I have to be up and "fully functional" so as to perform with the stick and throttle to my "optimum". ::) ::)
Thank you Bluey for your patience and help and thank you Chuffey's for giving me the opportunity to do something I've always wanted to do but not had the IQ to achieve. Thank You.
Cheers,
SS. :-[ :-[
PS: It doesn't help either when your surrounded by "real world"
pilots - Commercial, former military pilots and the like. I just feel all the more inferior. ??? ???
Worry not sadsack, not many people get online the first time without some sort of problem or indeed continue into the future without something going awry. (Have you tried doing a reboot Woof ?) Between everyone things get sorted out.
As for "stuffing up" the flying, you're not officially a Chuffolite until you've shot down your wingman and spent 15 minutes unwittingly flying in the wrong direction.
You'll be o.k. Sadsack old chap......I've been thrashing blindly 'bout the sky with this shower for a couple of weeks now, and haven't been asked to leave yet. it's of no consequence and often engenders much hilarity if one makes a pig's ear of things in dogfight sessions; but in co-ops I tend to keep a distance from other flyers to avoid embarrassing situations.
I'm in a similar situation to you regarding PC nouse; luckily my elder son is the opposite. I have also been out of the IL2 loop for (good grief) 7 years now due to RL situations (business and caring for elderly parents, children and various canine mutts) and was shy about getting back into it and making a twat of meself amongst chaps that have been at it since the demo back in 2000. In those intervening years from being able to inflict some grief in Hyperlobby I have reached 61 and find that I now fly like the old geezer doing 40mph in the middle lane of the motorway resplendant in trilby and string-backed gloves. I find that having set up my old X45 HOTAS, CH pedals. Nostromo command pad, TS3 and TrackIR to perfection, once in the air I can't remember which button/rotary/key does what.
Be not misled by the impression the fine fellows of Chuffys like to encourage that they are a cross between Biggles and Monty Python, they all seem to me to be rather tasty at shootin' and flyin'; often at the same time. Importantly though they are able to balance this proficiency with good-natured humour and banter which makes 'flying' with them both fun and challenging.
Just one thing, with this lot on DF nights, 'don't fly straight and level in the combat area!!'
I look forward to seeing you in the air old chap.
Notice no smileys; I think you've used up our daily quota ;D
oops no there's one.
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 13, 2011, 07:10:25 AM
Conky, you must need some rig to run that game. My fps just running the demo were so low it looked like a slide show.
The optimization of the code is ongoing Bluey, 300-400 patches should do the trick.
There are also a few bugs, for instance the Norfolk Island map is actually that of Lord Howe Island. Don't know how that could have happened... :D
Pip, pip,
Conky
Quote from sadsack:
"...I reckon those that reside permanently in WA have had a portion of their brain removed - That portion which controls logic! LOL Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy..."
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 13, 2011, 07:08:19 AM
Mrs Bluey is from WA.
Well, she did marry
you Bluey ;)
Pip, pip,
Conky
Cheers Gizmo and BalDaddy, and yeah Conky Mrs Blue Dog did marry Mr BD perhaps some sort of defection from the West EH???
notice no smiley's LOL.
Cheers,
SS.
Quote from: Gizmo on May 13, 2011, 05:25:28 PM
Worry not sadsack, not many people get online the first time without some sort of problem or indeed continue into the future without something going awry. (Have you tried doing a reboot Woof ?) Between everyone things get sorted out.
As for "stuffing up" the flying, you're not officially a Chuffolite until you've shot down your wingman and spent 15 minutes unwittingly flying in the wrong direction.
SadSack, Gizmo is, I believe referring to my three year probationary period with CFC during which time the perennial cry became:"Lookout chaps, Woof's whining about his bloody computer again." Now that I've finally got a stable rig I'm hoping to become a full member after the next Selection Committee meeting.
G'day Woof,
Yes mate I am more than able to "empathise" with your PC situation. 3 years of being out in the "wilderness" mate. That's a bit stiff isn't it?? and wot's this selection commitee stuff? You wouldn't be "winding me up" now Woof would ya?
cheers,
SS.
Still NO smiley's!!!
Me? Wind you up? I didn't even know you were rundown. Or a clock. Might I suggest a strong celery tonic water? Or a key? I guess Fitz and or Bluey have not yet sent you your Handbook. When you get it, read, memorize and inwardly digest page 367. Illuminating.
Sorry mate no can do! Lost ma glasses and anyway I just look at the pics. I'm tryin to get off the veges and use Tonic water for my car battery so I reckon I'm stuffed before even gettin off the ground mate snigger snigger
Cheers,
SS.
Just an addition re the windin up etc,
A mate and I sent a young bloke down to the engineers Q store one arvo with a request for a "Long weight" didn't see him for 3 days LOL
Cheers,
SS
QuoteWell, she did marry you Bluey
Touche, Conky.
Quote from: =CfC=BlueDog on May 13, 2011, 09:17:33 PM
QuoteWell, she did marry you Bluey
Touche, Conky.
On the other hand Bluey, what they may lack in logic is more than made up for by their telepathic abilities. When my wife gets home later, I fully expect her to knock me into next week because I
may have said something out of line about WA ladies... ;)
Pip, pip,
Conky
QuoteI have reached 61 and find that I now fly like the old geezer doing 40mph in the middle lane of the motorway resplendant in trilby and string-backed gloves
Baldaddy, had Woof and I realised you were a youngster, we would have gone easy on you.
QuoteWhen my wife gets home later, I fully expect her to knock me into next week because I may have said something out of line about WA ladies.
Nothing to do with telepathic abilities, Conky. I've just emailed her! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
:D :D :D