What Ho Fitz
Re our brief chat about Star Citizen, it certainly is an interesting concept and I think I would enjoy being part of it. I'm a little confused on how to join and cost. One page says its going to be 60 bucks for the digital game but is 30 for now. Another page says its a subscription of 10 or 20 bucks a month depending on what sort of membership you want. Could you clarify for me please? I do not suppose that my old rig will run the game well, if at all, but I would concider signing up anyway as it will incourage me to upgrade.
Mak
Hi Mak,
Ok, here's the beef in brief! The game is currently in development and we do not know how much the final game will cost, though in very early info it was pegged at about $50 - $60. You will buy the game and be able to play forever, no subscription is required. The current subscriptions are for backers to obtain info before anyone else and get mentioned in the game blah blah blah.
The game will be released in parts in alpha and beta stages and once the game has reached a point where they feel it is good to release, they will bascially declare a release day and allow non backers to buy the game and join in. It is not expected to be released in full until 2015 sometime.
To get in on the action for the alpha and beta you will need a backer game package. The cheapest one with alpha and beta access is the aurora MR package at $40. This also gives you the full game on release. There are about 2000 alpha slots left and expect them to dissapear over the next couple of days as the dogfight module alpha is released and the first real bit of gameplay is to be had. (Currently all we can do is walk around and inside our ships in the hangar).
You will likely need a pretty good machine to run it full stop, though performance is likely to improve as the code is tweaked through development. I would say that a 3.5Ghz Quad core machine with a 660GTX and at least 8GB RAM would be a good estimate of what you will need to run it at reasonable settings. As ever though the faster the better.
If you do back, make sure it's before the alpha slots run out and make sure you get a game package and not just the ship on it's own. Let me know if you need any more info!
pip pip,
Fitz (in Spaaaaaaaaace)
Thanks for the info Fitz
I opened an acount today, but when I tried to buy the Aurora MR+ pacage I got a web page message 'out of memory at line 3456'. at the billing adress stage. I couldn't even give them my money!!! ;D
Will keep trying. Is my old rig so slow that I cant even sign up I wonder.
Am away tomorrow night so no flying for me, Happy landings to all.
Mak
Ignore last post Fitz, Got it sorted. Now to start saving up for a decent rig ;D
Thanks again.
Mak
What Ho Fitz.
Hope you don't mind me picking your brains on this.
I'm looking at the
Intel i7 4770 Quad Core 3.4Ghz or the AMD A8 6600K Quad Core Processor 3.9GHz
is there much to choose between them? The AMD's seem to come out cheaper so I could use the savings on either a better Graphics card or more RAM.
Any guidance valued.
Mak [firmly on the ground, but looking up]
i7 and make sure it's a K version. Avoid the AMD processors for now, they're well behind on intel in performance. If you get an i7 4770K we should easily be able to clock it to 4.2Ghz
Well, I decided to take the plunge :-\
Aurora LN.
Pip, pip,
Conky
In space no one can hear you fart...
Don't forget to join FFC! Fitz's Flying Circus can be found in the organisation section on the site.
Quote from: =CfC=Fitz on April 10, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
Don't forget to join FFC! Fitz's Flying Circus can be found in the organisation section on the site.
Done!
Quote from: CfC_Conky on April 10, 2014, 06:54:39 PM
In space no one can hear you fart...
...that's the only reason I signed up
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Quote from: =CfC=Fitz on April 10, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
Don't forget to join FFC! Fitz's Flying Circus can be found in the organisation section on the site.
Done!
Application accepted!
Thanks for the heads up Fitz, I'll stick will Intel. The system I'm looking at is
Intel Haswell Quad Core i7 4770k 3.5GHz 8GB 500GB Asus H81M-E motherboard NVidia GTX650
It comes without an OP so I'll probably load Windows 7, if thats appropriate.
What do you think?
Mak
Hi Mak,
First things that spring to mind:
Try and get a better gpu if you can, it's easy to upgrade RAM later but going from a 650 to a 660 will still be the price of the whole card. The 650 is a bit wimpy. I would image a 660 Ti is a low as you want to go with a 760/770/780 being preferable. Try and avoid anything below x60 where x is the series number.
Is there any reason you need a micro ATX motherboard? You'll get a better spec/upgradability with a full ATX.
I can provide you with a copy of win7 Ultimate if required.
Hi Fitz
Thanks for the quick reply, I'll look around a bit more, My main concern is the CPU, as I can upgrade the rest as funds become available.
Got a lot of other commitments this year but want to make an entry level start on a new rig.
Thanks again
Mak
Ps sorry I did not post this thread in the right place to start with, still learning. :)
Hi Mak,
I've just gone through the upgrade process, so if I may make a few suggestions...
As Fitz has mentioned, the GTX650 might not be the best gpu for you, the price difference between it and the GTX760 is not that great and it will be good value for your dosh. Personally, I went for a GTX770 but both are very close in performance. These video cards are quite large, which could prove problematic with a smaller mobo and/or case. Don't forget about the power supply either, 500W is the absolute minimum you should go for, 650W or more would be better.
I went for Win7 Home Premium for the OS, you are limited to 16GB of RAM but you probably don't need any more than that for the time being and besides, by the time 32GB become necessary, there will be a better OS than Win8.1 around! I hope!:D)
Pip, pip,
Conky
Quote from: =CfC=Fitz on April 11, 2014, 05:10:21 PM
Quote from: CfC_Conky on April 11, 2014, 12:03:32 AM
Quote from: =CfC=Fitz on April 10, 2014, 07:43:33 PM
Don't forget to join FFC! Fitz's Flying Circus can be found in the organisation section on the site.
Done!
Application accepted!
Thanks Fitz,
By the way, how did I become a veteran all of a sudden?
Pip, pip,
Conky
What Ho Conky
I'm thinking I should go for the larger case with Asus Z87-K for future upgradability as Fitz mentioned then. The extra cost means I'll have to put my old Radeon HD5450 in there for now. I'm only playing IL2 and wont need the extra ooomff untill SC comes out by which time I'll have the ready's to put some more RAM and a decent graphics card in too ;D.
Mak
Quote from: Mak on April 11, 2014, 08:53:59 PM
What Ho Conky
I'm thinking I should go for the larger case with Asus Z87-K for future upgradability as Fitz mentioned then. The extra cost means I'll have to put my old Radeon HD5450 in there for now. I'm only playing IL2 and wont need the extra ooomff untill SC comes out by which time I'll have the ready's to put some more RAM and a decent graphics card in too ;D.
Mak
Sounds like a good plan Mak 8). IL2 is not that demanding anymore and besides, because of it's code you can still get stutters even with the fastest cpu and gpu. As for SC, it might just work well enough with a decent cpu and low to mid-range gpu, depending on how they code it.
Pip, pip,
Conky
Conky - You're a veteran because I'm the master and I said so ;D
Mak - That's a better plan, If I had my really sensible hat on, I'd say wait as long as you can to upgrade your GPU as they are always releasing new cards and making the older ones cheaper. This time next year a Titan could be affordable......
That makes sense to me too Fitz. Thats what I'll do.
Ive applied for membership in the FFC but will have to wait to download and look around my Hangar untill I get more power.
I guess you guys are ready to try out the dogfight module, any news on release date.
On another note I played all the Wing Commander and Privateer+Freelancer way back then, loved them all but mostly Privateer. I cant believe I missed StarLancer!!! I'm going to have to look for that on ebay.
Mak
Application accepted! Welcome aboard.
DFM is any day now, probably next week some time.
I also played all the WC games and obviously loved privateer. I missed out on Privateer 2 and Starlancer but having tried to play privateer again recently I just couldn't get pas t the low res, awful graphics and naf sound etc. I have truly been spoilt by modern games!
Hi Chaps,
Starlancer was an AWESOME GAME! It's a bloody shame they never made a sequel or made it work in XP. Think IL2 in space.
Thanks for the rating Fitz, how come Gizmo gets to be a master? ??? ;)
Pip, pip,
Conky
Quote from: CfC_Conky on April 12, 2014, 06:48:22 AM
Thanks for the rating Fitz, how come Gizmo gets to be a master? ??? ;)
Pip, pip,
Conky
Coz Fitz wants to fly my Super Hornet :D :D :D :D
Quote from: Gizmo on April 12, 2014, 09:54:18 AM
Quote from: CfC_Conky on April 12, 2014, 06:48:22 AM
Thanks for the rating Fitz, how come Gizmo gets to be a master? ??? ;)
Pip, pip,
Conky
Coz Fitz wants to fly my Super Hornet :D :D :D :D
Basically.... ;)
Browsing the store, I can't believe someone investing over $10000 in this game won't get a piece of the action when it's done. Craaaaaaazy nerdy!
^^ That is a little scary. :o
My final lineup, all with LTI:
- Aurora LN
- Origin 325a Fighter
- Origin M50 Interceptor
- F7C-M Super Hornet with F7A military upgrade
- MISC Starfarer Tanker
- RSI Constellation
To date
Cot
XI'AN Scout
Starfarer
Super Hornet
Freelancer
Constellation
315
325
Cutlass
Avenger
Electro skin hull.
The cot doesn't have LTI.
:-X
If you ever need a gunner Gizmo, I'm your man!!
Mak
Mine....
X-wing
Tie Fighter
Tie Fighter extra evil black version
Nostromo
Capricorn One
Enterprise
Milllenium Falcon
Red Dwarf (and Starbug)
Gunner position available on the Falcon - but don't get cocky kid...
Who... Me... No way Dadio
Mak
Travelling through hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy!
(http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc53/Sillius_Sodus/CfC/Hyperspace_zps44354a9a.jpg) (http://s218.photobucket.com/user/Sillius_Sodus/media/CfC/Hyperspace_zps44354a9a.jpg.html)
According to Chris R, the Connie was inspired by the Millenium Falcon, fun times ahead!
I'm still mulling over the next tin cans for my hangar. I like the Origin 300 series, but which one? I know there will be a lot of dogfighting but there is also supposed to be an exploration/business component to the game, so the 315 is interesting with its long-range engines, increased cargo capacity, built-in tractor beam and special scanners, but I already have an Aurora. The Avenger carries a fair load, but I don't know how good it will be for exploring. At the moment I would prefer getting two new ships instead of going for a Hornet or larger.
Or, do I just wait for new ships...
Choices, choices, choices ???
Pip, pip,
Conky
There is another ship on the horizon that will be competitively priced against the Aurora, the Mustang.
http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Mustang (http://starcitizen.wikia.com/wiki/Mustang)
Hello Chaps,
i've created a new folder in the Chuffysheroes Dropbox folder called, you guessed it, Star Citizen and I have placed there two pdf documents, a game guide and a buyer's guide for ships.
Pip, pip,
Conky
Ooo the dropbox, that reminds me , Fitz put some music in there to listen to.
My guides...
Game
Kill em.. Kill em all.
Buyers
Buy em.. buy em all.